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Old 09-07-2005   #1
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Alright...now that was hilarious, even if it's being moved/deleted. (Unless I missed something on the show this morning? I didn't listen).
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I am going to leave it. Even though the photo itself wasn't talked about on the show. Todd and Tyler did talk about the hurricane and the government's response or lack or it. They also talked about how the majority of the people that were told to go to the dome were very poor and didn't have a way out of the city.

The government knew that the levees couldn't handle anything more than a cat 3 hurricane. The government took in this information and instead of fixing the levees they lowered the amount of money that would be given to fix the problems. So as moderator - I say it stays unless Dave says otherwise..
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I obviously have to say something.God,I hope this is a fixed picture.I hope it ain't real.B)
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I can only assume that the pic is fake.
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Oh, it's of course fake...but it's a terrific morph job. That's a pro that did it.
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LOL now thats funny, I do have to say though I can't wait till this freaking guys term is up
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Funneee.. although I'll have to move this to the 'other' forum
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The government knew that the levees couldn't handle anything more than a cat 3 hurricane. The government took in this information and instead of fixing the levees they lowered the amount of money that would be given to fix the problems.
I don't feel as if it was the national gov's problem. (I'm not a bush fan so dont go there) The levee's couldn't handle anything more than the cat. 3 hurricane but the nat. gov. cannot keep track of everything...the state should have fixed that years ago. The state also didn't provide ANY transportation out of the city before the hurricane hit...so how could the lower income familys leave? Also, the state said that the large amount of people staying in the dome would only be there for 12 hours...what gave them the idea that they would only be there for such a short time when they knew that Kat's strentgh was more than the levees could handle and that the city would/could be gone? Then people are saying that the nat. gov didn't do enough....if u know ANYTHING about how the nat. gov. works (I am only in my 1st year of college n I knew this in high school) there are checks and balances....the president must go to the senate and they have to approve anything before it happens...this takes time...they state should of had things more organized to help the people get out of harms way....then the Red Cross could have gotten to the areas that people were transported to go to (they would know where people are) and gotten them the food and water that they needed.....

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BTW that was an awesome pic lol

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I don't feel as if it was the national gov's problem. ...the state should have fixed that years ago.
I TOTALLY agree that this was a state issue first and a national issue 2nd.


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The state also didn't provide ANY transportation out of the city before the hurricane hit...so how could the lower income familys leave?
It's not so much how would they leave as much as where they would have gone. Many families lived together or on the same block. They simply didn't have anywhere to go. That's why they stayed.

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they state should of had things more organized to help the people get out of harms way....then the Red Cross could have gotten to the areas that people were transported to go to (they would know where people are) and gotten them the food and water that they needed.....
Once again, totally agree with you here. It could have been handled/managed much better, but you know what they say about hindsight being 20/20....
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AcuraChic - You don't agree that this is a national issue. Are you aware that it is the Army Corp of Engineers that are responsible for the levees and that the National Government is responsible for 80% of the cost. The other 20% is split between the state, the county, and the city. So in all reality the fault of not having the levees fixed lays in the lap of the National Government.

AcuraChic - You are a first year college student - Yes there are checks and balances. There is also executive power and special rules for disasters.

Please don't get me wrong the government at all levels failed from City to County to State to National Government. I only posted about the national government on this thread. .
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And now for something completely different.

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AcuraChic - You don't agree that this is a national issue. Are you aware that it is the Army Corp of Engineers that are responsible for the levees and that the National Government is responsible for 80% of the cost. The other 20% is split between the state, the county, and the city. So in all reality the fault of not having the levees fixed lays in the lap of the National Government.

AcuraChic - You are a first year college student - Yes there are checks and balances. There is also executive power and special rules for disasters.

Please don't get me wrong the government at all levels failed from City to County to State to National Government. I only posted about the national government on this thread. .
M,one thing you should realize.What you said is true,BUT if the governor of the state does not ask for help or assistance,how is he to know.He cannot possibly cover every inch of the country,that is why he depends on them to tell him if they need help.B)
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So is that why the president kept reading when he found out about the planes hitting the world trade center - because no one said 'we need your help- Mr. President'

Cmon Mike - It was a cat 4 hurricane hitting a fish bowl with 100 year old levees that they knew wouldn't hold up. Does the President not watch the news - Does he need someone to tell him when to pee also - Some things are just facts - All LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT FAILED THE PEOPLE OF NEW ORLEANS!! When I saw the dome on the news and there were reports of water coming in and people dying that would have been enough I wouldn't have needed an invitation to help.

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That may be true,M.But like it or not,that is the way the gov't works,as f***ed up as it may be.B)
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Everyone dropped the ball. Personal responsiblity for your own safety included.

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