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Old 02-21-2007   #26
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Re: new idea about immigration

Round them up, ship them back. Sorry, but this is my country....I pay enough taxes as it is.....I pay for my own health care AND insurance. What a better way to infiltrate a country......slow, steady, and without opposition from high ranking governement officials. Unfortunately the civil rights of these illegals seem to to take priority over those of the citizens of the USA. Hello - WAKE UP AMERICA.
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its addle minded to build a wall we just tore one down, a better soultion would be for the political elite here to actually listen to America which has clearly loudly said we dont want thm here. now then the question become when Middle class says we dont want them here are they talking about illegals, Elitist poltitcians ? or both ?
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Re: new idea about immigration

There are alot of good points being made on the status of illegal immigrants with the postings above. I have no problem with people from other countries coming to America to get a better life, not only from themselves but for their families, but they need to go through the process of acquiring U.S. citizenship if they plan to stay. If someone is here illegally, whether from Mexico or another country, they should be deported until they have taken the proper steps to be able to work and live in our great country. And with illegal immigrants there's also children to think about. This is a hot button topic that will take years to fix and finalize a solution.
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Today we have shocking evidence of a reason to close the borders now. This guy came here and slaughtered many fine people. The glad handers in the government and liberal nuts with an agenda dont have any idea of who they have let in here and they dont care. The People who built this nation have a fundamental right to enjoy the fruits of their labors without the social engineers, The doo gooders, The Niave, The perverts and commies gathering up and foisting their goofy ideas on them. People ought to be asked first do you want your community changed with a pack of strangers many of whom hate you and everything you stand for dumped here by politically conneted nut cases..
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Re: new idea about immigration

i heard he's of asian decent
i didn't hear that he wasn't american (yet)
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Re: new idea about immigration

well?
was he here illegally?
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dont think so, fact is is that the immigartion dept has done such a poor job the leadership ought to be publicly executed.
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Today we have shocking evidence of a reason to close the borders now. This guy came here and slaughtered many fine people. The glad handers in the government and liberal nuts with an agenda dont have any idea of who they have let in here and they dont care. The People who built this nation have a fundamental right to enjoy the fruits of their labors without the social engineers, The doo gooders, The Niave, The perverts and commies gathering up and foisting their goofy ideas on them. People ought to be asked first do you want your community changed with a pack of strangers many of whom hate you and everything you stand for dumped here by politically conneted nut cases..
...lol..are u serious?
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would his race have been brought up if he were white?
white and from europe? legally?
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I'm far more concerned with the mentally ill than immigrants
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would his race have been brought up if he were white?
white and from europe? legally?
lily, of course they would say it. At the time nobody knew, but does it really matter? NO!!!!! It does not change what happened.
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Re: new idea about immigration

yer right, mike
it doesn't change a thing
because the shooting doesn't have
anything to do with this topic
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Re: new idea about immigration

he could not have been anymore of a legal citizen. He had all the paperwork. For Christ's sake he was able to buy a hand gun at a store legally. What we have is another American who went apeshit. McVeigh did it, Manson did it, Koresh did it.
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this kids rampage is about mental illness and how its treated in this country. Its not about gun control or the right to buy one.

Because of the culture surrounding mental illness in this country and the take a pill mentality to fix it he was unable to be treated properly.

he clearly displayed "warning signs"

One of his professors knew this kid had issues and tried to steer him in the right direction for treatment but couldn't take it any further because of "legal" ramifications.

until mental illness is accepted and treated on the same level as cancer, AIDS and soforth these tramatic events will continue.

if you feel the need to cast blame at someone for this, blame the insurance industry and the lawyers. The insurance industry for not recognizing mental illness as a real desease. They do but know it will bankrupt them. And lawyers for making it nearly impossible for someone to commit another person for mental illness. Even psychiatrists are unable to do it unless the person is a threat to ones self or others. The only sure way to get help is to commit yourself.

Now what person in their right mind would do that?
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You speak the God's honest truth Ox!

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As someone who has worked in all sorts of construction most of there life , i would like to explain what it is the Mexicans actually do ! They take the jobs of people that make say between $10 and $15 an hour and they do it for between minimum wage and $10...... So the individual who has worked somewhere for a good amount of time and has been moving up the payscale as should happen for most good workers..... Gets dumped, especially, at yearly review time and especially if they make a fuss about not getting a raise. And can you guess what they get told I can get people to do your job for half of what i pay you!!!!
And i don't want to hear the crap about how hard they work and what a good job they do ! At my job now and the 2 before I've had bosses tell me they know there quality is crappy but for what they pay them you cant beat it!!! They can afford to have them fix and redo things 2 or 3 times and its still cheaper !!!It's BULLSHIT!!!
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Im surprised he wasnt white, and that he didnt work for the post office!
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all you said is what everybody was thinking. Thanks..
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guido, why do you blame the employees/mexicans, who only want to work
but not the employers who are doing the hiring?
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Guido, I do not want to speak for you. But both the Mexicans and the companies are acting against the law.
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mexicans
or illegal mexicans?
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