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Bud · 04-06-2009

SimCity Creator:
SimCity Creator (Wii) - eBay (item 130298276485 end time Apr-12-09 19:05:00 PDT)

ReeFlo Pump:
Reeflo Sequence Barracuda / Hammerhead Pump - eBay (item 130298270168 end time Apr-12-09 19:00:00 PDT)

Ocean Clear Canister Filter:
Ocean Clear Red Sea 317 Canister Filter - eBay (item 130298272927 end time Apr-12-09 19:10:00 PDT)

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dracula · 04-06-2009

I can understand not hooking the canisters up in series....flow problems...but what about in parallel? A 'Y' with a check valve...?

Thender · 04-06-2009

Path of least resistance...

Bud · 04-07-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by dracula

I can understand not hooking the canisters up in series....flow problems...but what about in parallel? A 'Y' with a check valve...?

Canister #1 (the one for sale) filtered down to 50 microns. Then to canister #2 which filters down to 25 microns.

It can be done but I have too long of a run going from the filter room back to the tank which added way too much head pressure.

The Marlin almost did it but I just couldn't quite get my target of 600+ GPH. I ditched one of the canisters and am now getting about 700 gph.

dracula · 04-07-2009

700gph for how big a tank?

Bud · 04-07-2009

300 gallon. 96"x30"x24".

dracula · 04-07-2009

That's a little on the side of overkill..

Unless yer letting the Pug use it as a swimming pool...

Bud · 04-07-2009

Owning a fish tank is like owning a boat. You can never have one big enough.

The kids like to swim in it.

Thender · 04-07-2009

What do you expect from a cat owner Bud???

dracula · 04-07-2009

I used to breed Angels in 150's....freshwater don't need that much filtration....unless yer OCD about not having Pug hairs in yer water...

Thender · 04-07-2009

That explains why there are a lot of fugging ugly Angels on the market...

You can never ever over filter....

mike · 04-07-2009

you'd find a way !!!!

Bud · 04-07-2009

It all depends on how you want the water to look or how much work you want to do to maintain it.

Most people in the hobby would say to turn the water over about 5 times per hour with a canister set up. That would be 1500 gph. By that standard I'm under filtered.

The fish in this tank are also going to get much bigger creating a much larger bio-load. I'm by no means slamming Angel Fish as I've also owned them in the past and they are awesome fish but they are not very high on the bio load list being a slim bodied fish. I've also got quite the wet/dry system running with a large sump. I can change 25% of the water once a week and keep the nitrates below 20ppm.

Most of the members on a popular Oscar forum I visit have to do 50%-75% a week to keep nitrates down.

I'm no newbie to fish keeping, been in the hobby for almost 20 years, and did a lot of research before setting this tank up. I wanted a large tank with minimum maintenance. Mission accomplished.

Thender · 04-07-2009

And also remember, When the turn over rate might be 600gph, it does not mean that you are filtering every single gallon in that tank per hour..

mike · 04-07-2009

fish geeks !!!!!!

Bud · 04-07-2009

Exactly, some of the discharged water is going to go back to the intake. I'm sure there is some fish geek out there with a formula that can estimate "tank turnover" based on intake position, outlet position, and flow.

I just know that when I finally got my canister and UV running the improvement in water clarity was like night and day. Looking at the front of tank always looked clear but when viewing from the end you could see cloudiness, not anymore.

Bud · 04-07-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

fish geeks !!!!!!

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Bud · 04-07-2009

Wow. I had a guy email me asking questions about my pump that he would like to buy for a back-up pump. He sent me a link to his filter room.

dracula · 04-07-2009

Wow...now that's fish geeky....

mike · 04-07-2009

Good God !!!!!! Talk about overkill !!!!

Thender · 04-07-2009

jpa · 04-08-2009

who cares about the tank, i want a closeup of the pic above the sink

dracula · 04-08-2009

Must be some secret fish geek thingy.....notice the computer monitor with the 12 camera cctv setup?

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04-07-2009	#7
dracula Did yer mom...then she made me a sammich!!! Listens: Podcast Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 47 Posts: 16,113 Throcks: 1,294.63 Thanks: 45,035 Thanked 56,313 Times in 13,951 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff That's a little on the side of overkill.. Unless yer letting the Pug use it as a swimming pool... __________________ Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

04-07-2009	#8
Bud Wanna Bet??? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Plattsmeth Age: 40 Posts: 17,003 Throcks: 1,929.97 Thanks: 29,752 Thanked 28,127 Times in 6,599 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff Owning a fish tank is like owning a boat. You can never have one big enough. The kids like to swim in it. __________________ Click Here, Free Naked Ladies

04-06-2009	#1
Bud Wanna Bet??? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Plattsmeth Age: 40 Posts: 17,003 Throcks: 1,929.97 Thanks: 29,752 Thanked 28,127 Times in 6,599 Posts	Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff SimCity Creator: SimCity Creator (Wii) - eBay (item 130298276485 end time Apr-12-09 19:05:00 PDT) ReeFlo Pump: Reeflo Sequence Barracuda / Hammerhead Pump - eBay (item 130298270168 end time Apr-12-09 19:00:00 PDT) Ocean Clear Canister Filter: Ocean Clear Red Sea 317 Canister Filter - eBay (item 130298272927 end time Apr-12-09 19:10:00 PDT) No Reserve auctions starting at $0.03 __________________ Click Here, Free Naked Ladies

04-06-2009	#2
dracula Did yer mom...then she made me a sammich!!! Listens: Podcast Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 47 Posts: 16,113 Throcks: 1,294.63 Thanks: 45,035 Thanked 56,313 Times in 13,951 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff I can understand not hooking the canisters up in series....flow problems...but what about in parallel? A 'Y' with a check valve...? __________________ Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

04-07-2009	#9
Thender TnTU Guru Listens: Z92 - Omaha, NE Mornings (KEZO-FM) Join Date: May 2005 Age: 40 Posts: 34,133 Throcks: 43,444.66 Thanks: 50,202 Thanked 54,033 Times in 14,258 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff What do you expect from a cat owner Bud??? __________________

04-07-2009	#10
dracula Did yer mom...then she made me a sammich!!! Listens: Podcast Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 47 Posts: 16,113 Throcks: 1,294.63 Thanks: 45,035 Thanked 56,313 Times in 13,951 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff I used to breed Angels in 150's....freshwater don't need that much filtration....unless yer OCD about not having Pug hairs in yer water... __________________ Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

04-07-2009	#11
Thender TnTU Guru Listens: Z92 - Omaha, NE Mornings (KEZO-FM) Join Date: May 2005 Age: 40 Posts: 34,133 Throcks: 43,444.66 Thanks: 50,202 Thanked 54,033 Times in 14,258 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff That explains why there are a lot of fugging ugly Angels on the market... You can never ever over filter.... __________________

04-07-2009	#12
mike Yadda Yadda !!!! Who asked ya ????? Listens: Z92 - Omaha, NE Mornings (KEZO-FM) Join Date: May 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 31,482 Throcks: 80,116.31 Thanks: 52,010 Thanked 65,004 Times in 18,373 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff you'd find a way !!!! __________________ "Don't confuse hate with the truth !!!"

04-07-2009	#13
Bud Wanna Bet??? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Plattsmeth Age: 40 Posts: 17,003 Throcks: 1,929.97 Thanks: 29,752 Thanked 28,127 Times in 6,599 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff It all depends on how you want the water to look or how much work you want to do to maintain it. Most people in the hobby would say to turn the water over about 5 times per hour with a canister set up. That would be 1500 gph. By that standard I'm under filtered. The fish in this tank are also going to get much bigger creating a much larger bio-load. I'm by no means slamming Angel Fish as I've also owned them in the past and they are awesome fish but they are not very high on the bio load list being a slim bodied fish. I've also got quite the wet/dry system running with a large sump. I can change 25% of the water once a week and keep the nitrates below 20ppm. Most of the members on a popular Oscar forum I visit have to do 50%-75% a week to keep nitrates down. I'm no newbie to fish keeping, been in the hobby for almost 20 years, and did a lot of research before setting this tank up. I wanted a large tank with minimum maintenance. Mission accomplished. __________________ Click Here, Free Naked Ladies

04-07-2009	#14
Thender TnTU Guru Listens: Z92 - Omaha, NE Mornings (KEZO-FM) Join Date: May 2005 Age: 40 Posts: 34,133 Throcks: 43,444.66 Thanks: 50,202 Thanked 54,033 Times in 14,258 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff And also remember, When the turn over rate might be 600gph, it does not mean that you are filtering every single gallon in that tank per hour.. __________________

04-07-2009	#15
mike Yadda Yadda !!!! Who asked ya ????? Listens: Z92 - Omaha, NE Mornings (KEZO-FM) Join Date: May 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 31,482 Throcks: 80,116.31 Thanks: 52,010 Thanked 65,004 Times in 18,373 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff fish geeks !!!!!! __________________ "Don't confuse hate with the truth !!!"

04-07-2009	#16
Bud Wanna Bet??? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Plattsmeth Age: 40 Posts: 17,003 Throcks: 1,929.97 Thanks: 29,752 Thanked 28,127 Times in 6,599 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff Exactly, some of the discharged water is going to go back to the intake. I'm sure there is some fish geek out there with a formula that can estimate "tank turnover" based on intake position, outlet position, and flow. I just know that when I finally got my canister and UV running the improvement in water clarity was like night and day. Looking at the front of tank always looked clear but when viewing from the end you could see cloudiness, not anymore. __________________ Click Here, Free Naked Ladies

04-07-2009	#18
Bud Wanna Bet??? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Plattsmeth Age: 40 Posts: 17,003 Throcks: 1,929.97 Thanks: 29,752 Thanked 28,127 Times in 6,599 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff Wow. I had a guy email me asking questions about my pump that he would like to buy for a back-up pump. He sent me a link to his filter room. __________________ Click Here, Free Naked Ladies

04-07-2009	#19
dracula Did yer mom...then she made me a sammich!!! Listens: Podcast Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 47 Posts: 16,113 Throcks: 1,294.63 Thanks: 45,035 Thanked 56,313 Times in 13,951 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff Wow...now that's fish geeky.... __________________ Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

04-07-2009	#20
mike Yadda Yadda !!!! Who asked ya ????? Listens: Z92 - Omaha, NE Mornings (KEZO-FM) Join Date: May 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 31,482 Throcks: 80,116.31 Thanks: 52,010 Thanked 65,004 Times in 18,373 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff Good God !!!!!! Talk about overkill !!!! __________________ "Don't confuse hate with the truth !!!"

04-07-2009	#21
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04-08-2009	#22
jpa Special Members Listens: Podcast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha Age: 30 Posts: 10,449 Throcks: 15,784.46 Thanks: 3,487 Thanked 16,977 Times in 3,756 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff who cares about the tank, i want a closeup of the pic above the sink __________________ "I dont have pet peeves, I have major pyschotic f-ing hatred." George Carlin

04-08-2009	#23
dracula Did yer mom...then she made me a sammich!!! Listens: Podcast Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 47 Posts: 16,113 Throcks: 1,294.63 Thanks: 45,035 Thanked 56,313 Times in 13,951 Posts	Re: Wii Game & Aquarium Stuff Must be some secret fish geek thingy.....notice the computer monitor with the 12 camera cctv setup? __________________ Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

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