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Dave · 11-01-2006

Anyone, Nobody?

Travis, Todd, Tyler, and Beastmaster got into an argument about stem cells, in vitro, ethics, science, and religion. But they're still friends, and they're clones from the future all kiss and hug and have premarital sex when the mics are off

Check out the 11/1/2006 podcast (segment 3 or 4 maybe?) to witness the carnage.

Basically, Trav asked the guys if they thought "everything" in science was ok, no ethics involved at all, and the guys said "sure, whatever".

But the guys tried to point out that ethics are based on religious beliefs.

My personal opinion was to question Trav to ask, who's going to come up with the ethics, and what happens if nobody abides by them?

It came down to the guys tellin' Trav that he's speaking for his church, and Trav denied that, and that he'd feel the same way even if he didn't go to church. "Well, we know you don't do that" said Tyler.

"Trav's hypocrisy knows no bounds!" - Jeremy
"Oh yeah... its boundless" - Todd

There was some meanness displayed when Tyler suggested that Z92 aired a commercial for the Catholic church because they were "mad at Trav for a coupla weeks"

**Thender** · 11-01-2006

I'm gonna have to think about this one.....

**Bud** · 11-01-2006

Politics and Religion, the two things my Grandpa told me to avoid in conversations because everybody is right and the only result will be injured friendships.

I vote nobody.

**ob1** · 11-01-2006

I'm with you on this one Bud.

Two2mnyxs · 11-01-2006

i agree no winners although i agree that many advances can be made but what are the boundrys?

**mike** · 11-01-2006

I also voted nobody. What would you consider "winning"? Getting the best of someone in an argument, or damaging a friendship you've had for years, over something you know you shouldn't be debating to begin with?

ericcruefan · 11-01-2006

The listeners win....because neither side will back down so it makes for good radio

One they they can all agree on.

WICCANS EAT BABIES

Lets just pray that Trav doesn't quit one day....lol does anybody remember the great Brian Houston freakout?

**Thender** · 11-01-2006

I had to really contemplate that question. (Read into it for more than it was asking). I voted for nobody....

Everybody has their own ethics and MORALS. They are guidelines as to how we lead and live our own lives. They are instilled into us from birth by our surroundings and the people who are influential on us as we grow up. Everything around you determines your own ethics i.e. how you want to live your own life and govern your own behavior.

Just as it is ethical for one person to believe it is alright to hunt and kill animals for food and product, it is just as ethical for next person to believe it is completely unjust to kill any living thing for any purpose.

The Ten Commandments is a short list of the ethical thinking of the time. Some, now, choose to live by a partial list. Some choose to live by the full list. And some choose to live by none of the list.

Hence our Ethics, Morals, and Beliefs get us into many an argument for which there will never be a winner. Because in our own minds we are the winners, no matter what anybody else says.

From the desk of:
Professor Thender.

Marto · 11-02-2006

Nobody would win. None of them would stop.
I was with Trav on the topic...I can't believe they went that far! I am far from religious like Travis is. I don't believe he said what he did just because he is a Catholic.

It was entertaining though!

Matthew Higgins · 11-02-2006

Has Tyler ever lost an argument? Hence my vote.

Lynniebits · 11-02-2006

I voted for Todd, cuz although I didn't hear it today, Todd thinks about his answers, and he might be stoned and a little philosophical!

2ox · 11-03-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Higgins

Has Tyler ever lost an argument? Hence my vote.

it is difficult to argue with the most informed person on earth...

**Bud** · 11-03-2006

WTF ??? Travis has 7 votes ???

View Poll Results: Who would win an ethics based fist fight?
Todd	1	4.76%
Tyler	4	19.05%
Jeremy	1	4.76%
Craig	1	4.76%
Travis	7	33.33%
Beastmaster	0	0%
Nobody	7	33.33%
Everybody	0	0%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

11-01-2006	#1
Dave Wookin Pa Nub Listens: Z92 - Mornings Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 6,841 Throcks: 8,279.53 Thanks: 933 Thanked 1,755 Times in 332 Posts	Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? Anyone, Nobody? Travis, Todd, Tyler, and Beastmaster got into an argument about stem cells, in vitro, ethics, science, and religion. But they're still friends, and they're clones from the future all kiss and hug and have premarital sex when the mics are off Check out the 11/1/2006 podcast (segment 3 or 4 maybe?) to witness the carnage. Basically, Trav asked the guys if they thought "everything" in science was ok, no ethics involved at all, and the guys said "sure, whatever". But the guys tried to point out that ethics are based on religious beliefs. My personal opinion was to question Trav to ask, who's going to come up with the ethics, and what happens if nobody abides by them? It came down to the guys tellin' Trav that he's speaking for his church, and Trav denied that, and that he'd feel the same way even if he didn't go to church. "Well, we know you don't do that" said Tyler. "Trav's hypocrisy knows no bounds!" - Jeremy "Oh yeah... its boundless" - Todd There was some meanness displayed when Tyler suggested that Z92 aired a commercial for the Catholic church because they were "mad at Trav for a coupla weeks" __________________ Speedway! ~ Spin-out! ~ Crypto-Logic! YetAnotherGreatBandName.com Questions, comments, concerns? Last edited by Dave; 11-01-2006 at 10:34 AM.

11-01-2006	#2
Thender Always riding the ragged edge of disaster. Listens: Z92 - Mornings Join Date: May 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 24,053 Throcks: 9,288.28 Thanks: 14,638 Thanked 16,875 Times in 4,170 Posts	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? I'm gonna have to think about this one..... __________________ Shenandoah, American Legion Post #88 Color Guard, State Color Guard Champions for 2008 - 2009 Two in the mouth is worth one in the bush.

11-01-2006	#3
Bud Wanna Bet??? Listens: Z92 - Mornings Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Plattsmeth Age: 38 Posts: 13,914 Throcks: 19,247.59 Thanks: 14,278 Thanked 15,111 Times in 3,508 Posts	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? Politics and Religion, the two things my Grandpa told me to avoid in conversations because everybody is right and the only result will be injured friendships. I vote nobody. __________________ Time is Short Click Here, Free Naked Ladies 2007 TNTU.net Fantasy NASCAR Champion !!!

11-01-2006	#4
ob1 Jedi SlaveBoy Listens: Z92 - Mornings Join Date: May 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 7,192 Throcks: 2,708.24 Thanks: 1,356 Thanked 3,087 Times in 606 Posts	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? I'm with you on this one Bud.

11-01-2006	#5
Two2mnyxs Jr. and Jeff will be Team Mates in '08 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Papillion Age: 37 Posts: 986 Throcks: 4,167.56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? i agree no winners although i agree that many advances can be made but what are the boundrys? __________________ WOW HAIL HORDE If you Play and want a good group to run with email me James.hayes@offutt.af.mil this space for rent

11-01-2006	#6
mike BOOOOOOOOOOOOBIES!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Listens: Z92 - Mornings Join Date: May 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 15,224 Throcks: 6,976.68 Thanks: 16,081 Thanked 9,537 Times in 2,210 Posts	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? I also voted nobody. What would you consider "winning"? Getting the best of someone in an argument, or damaging a friendship you've had for years, over something you know you shouldn't be debating to begin with? __________________ If I like you, leave a message. If I don't , don't bother. If I don't know you, why the hell you calling me ??

11-01-2006	#7
ericcruefan TnTU Senior Listens: Z92 - Mornings Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Louisville, Nebraska Age: 22 Posts: 455 Throcks: 2,897.17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? The listeners win....because neither side will back down so it makes for good radio One they they can all agree on. WICCANS EAT BABIES Lets just pray that Trav doesn't quit one day....lol does anybody remember the great Brian Houston freakout?

11-02-2006	#9
Marto Keep Cool My Babies!! Listens: Podcast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Onawa,IA Age: 22 Posts: 79 Throcks: 365.49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? Nobody would win. None of them would stop. I was with Trav on the topic...I can't believe they went that far! I am far from religious like Travis is. I don't believe he said what he did just because he is a Catholic. It was entertaining though! __________________ Proud member of the Jerry Fan Club

11-02-2006	#10
Matthew Higgins Official Round Table Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West O Posts: 15 Throcks: 360.36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? Has Tyler ever lost an argument? Hence my vote.

11-02-2006	#11
Lynniebits Fear me, if you dare! Listens: Z92 - Mornings Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Back in Counciltucky! Age: 33 Posts: 2,203 Throcks: 507.43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 36 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? I voted for Todd, cuz although I didn't hear it today, Todd thinks about his answers, and he might be stoned and a little philosophical! __________________ Life is too short for bras and uncomfortable shoes.

11-03-2006	#13
Bud Wanna Bet??? Listens: Z92 - Mornings Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Plattsmeth Age: 38 Posts: 13,914 Throcks: 19,247.59 Thanks: 14,278 Thanked 15,111 Times in 3,508 Posts	Re: Who would win an "ethics" based fist fight? WTF ??? Travis has 7 votes ??? __________________ Time is Short Click Here, Free Naked Ladies 2007 TNTU.net Fantasy NASCAR Champion !!!

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